Has Anyone Else Had This Problem Via A*F*F  

redrockrascal 60M
7386 posts
2/10/2019 3:24 pm
Has Anyone Else Had This Problem Via A*F*F



The problem being a stranger contacting you by email and requesting payment to not expose your presence here to family or friends. Something the same or similar to what happened to my buddy LindoBoy as described Good site, great support, thank you . The timeline being since the beginning of 2019.

One reason I'm asking is because I know someone else who has. I'm not at a point to say there is something wide spread happening - just gathering information at this point.

If you don't want to make it public feel free to post it to my private post - For Your Eyes Only

UPDATE: This has nothing to do with alleged scammers / fakes ON the site. Please read the post by LindoBoy for the specifics.


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sweet_VM 60F  
79730 posts
2/14/2019 7:50 am

Lots more mail then usual. On Im I just don’t use it. But people sure do try to contact you hugs V

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redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/11/2019 4:12 pm

    Quoting BiggLala:
    I don't think being contacted outside this site without prior onsite contact would necessarily indicate this site was breached (still a possibility, though). Could be the member's offsite email provider was hacked and the hackers searched for where that email has been used, or another site connected to that email address was hacked. Then the hackers used that information to blackmail the person.

    For instance, I have a Yahell account that is only associated with this site and my kik account that I only use to chat offsite with people I meet through here (the one you have). Yahell [historically] has horrible security, but has gotten better. Oddly enough, I haven't gotten any spam to that account for over a year. BUT, I frequently get spam to my other Yahell account that's tied to my FB, Amazon, and a few other general sites.

    Who knows anymore. *scratches head* 🤷🏽‍♀️
What somewhat links the blackmail attempts to this site is the threat to "out" people based on the sexual content of the threat (pics, cams, videos), While that could be from another 'sex site' it does narrow down the type of site the was h@cked. We also know, confirmed by outside sources, that A*F*F (et al) has been breached at least once (very possibly twice) since I started blogging (2014).

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BiggLala 46F  
25505 posts
2/11/2019 1:12 pm

    Quoting redrockrascal:
    Oh, I didn't realize that. But, now I have read that some have been contacted without having interactions onsite first.
I don't think being contacted outside this site without prior onsite contact would necessarily indicate this site was breached (still a possibility, though). Could be the member's offsite email provider was hacked and the hackers searched for where that email has been used, or another site connected to that email address was hacked. Then the hackers used that information to blackmail the person.

For instance, I have a Yahell account that is only associated with this site and my kik account that I only use to chat offsite with people I meet through here (the one you have). Yahell [historically] has horrible security, but has gotten better. Oddly enough, I haven't gotten any spam to that account for over a year. BUT, I frequently get spam to my other Yahell account that's tied to my FB, Amazon, and a few other general sites.

Who knows anymore. *scratches head* 🤷🏽‍♀️

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redrockrascal 60M
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2/11/2019 12:06 pm

    Quoting Tmptrzz:
    That's terrible, I got an email not here on the site, but it said they wanted me to pay something to bitcoin. I deleted it this is crazy as they have done this to some other members here saying they saw them on cam. This is so crazy I don't know who is behind this stuff, but I hope they get caught soon!!!
You're not alone T and us bloggers are not a large percentage of the overall active members. That makes me wonder how any have been effected.

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redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/11/2019 12:04 pm

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    In my case, the person and I chatted here first, then took our chat off of here, to another platform. There was no hack.........
Oh, I didn't realize that. But, now I have read that some have been contacted without having interactions onsite first.

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Tmptrzz 56F  
55073 posts
2/11/2019 10:21 am

That's terrible, I got an email not here on the site, but it said they wanted me to pay something to bitcoin. I deleted it this is crazy as they have done this to some other members here saying they saw them on cam. This is so crazy I don't know who is behind this stuff, but I hope they get caught soon!!!

Just your average every day run of the mill nana here!!!


lindoboy100 56M
20155 posts
2/11/2019 10:16 am

    Quoting redrockrascal:
    This is about strangers making contact, and wanting payment, OFFSITE on member's private email, which seems to have been acquired via h@cking the site.
In my case, the person and I chatted here first, then took our chat off of here, to another platform. There was no hack.........

Wake up and hold yer noses.........


redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/11/2019 8:05 am

    Quoting MyBaffies:
    If I get an email from a stranger on here, I wont be able to read it as I'm only a standard member. If that's how they're going about the scam, then there's a flaw in their plan.

    I have read a couple of people externally being emailed similar scams - the "we've seen you on webcam logging in to illegal sites, pay us in bitcoin or we'll tell your family/friends" routine - but I can't vouch for where the email addresses were obtained from. It seems like the initial email contact does contain a valid password so it was probably due to some historic hack of some kind.

    I'm quite confident I'm not identifiable off-site from here anyway - I'm careful about what information I post - so it is doubtful anyone would be able to expose any info about me to my "friends". Never tried to see if my photo would appear elsewhere using tineye, but it would probably find me on LesbianPersonals and if they want to expose me that I'm signed up to that site, then there's an interesting conversation I'd need to have with my family.

    Don't let anyone you know fall for the scam.
This is about strangers making contact, and wanting payment, OFFSITE on member's private email, which seems to have been acquired via h@cking the site.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/11/2019 8:02 am

    Quoting BiggLala:
    Hmmm, well...that's tough to tell. I don't think the situation with guy I knew was from the early 2015 breach. I think it was someone he chatted with, and I *think* cammed with, i.e. the 'recording the cam session' scam.

    What makes you think recent scams are due to a breach?
The people who've been contacted never initiated contact with the person(s) on or off the site. There is no indication, that I am aware of, that the person(s) were ever a member of the site.

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citizen4722 61M  
60400 posts
2/11/2019 7:29 am

I mainly keep my IM set to busy (but it often mysteriously changes back to green)!
I have had a number of messages ending with a g(ee)mail addy. That's all I need to see...that's a red light to me.


MyBaffies 49M
2947 posts
2/11/2019 2:37 am

If I get an email from a stranger on here, I wont be able to read it as I'm only a standard member. If that's how they're going about the scam, then there's a flaw in their plan.

I have read a couple of people externally being emailed similar scams - the "we've seen you on webcam logging in to illegal sites, pay us in bitcoin or we'll tell your family/friends" routine - but I can't vouch for where the email addresses were obtained from. It seems like the initial email contact does contain a valid password so it was probably due to some historic hack of some kind.

I'm quite confident I'm not identifiable off-site from here anyway - I'm careful about what information I post - so it is doubtful anyone would be able to expose any info about me to my "friends". Never tried to see if my photo would appear elsewhere using tineye, but it would probably find me on LesbianPersonals and if they want to expose me that I'm signed up to that site, then there's an interesting conversation I'd need to have with my family.

Don't let anyone you know fall for the scam.

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LustingInDeLoop 56F  
1399 posts
2/11/2019 12:40 am

    Quoting redrockrascal:
    Via this site, an offsite email? Was it reported to the site?
They had taken contact offsite so.... no, it wasn’t reported.

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likestwolook 58M
16 posts
2/10/2019 9:56 pm

It’s the usual thing where people are pretending to be someone who they are not to trick you into giving up control or money. Trust your gut


redrockrascal replies on 2/11/2019 7:59 am:
No, this is more about people's info having been h@cked and then being blackmailed.

redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 8:29 pm

    Quoting Naughtypursuit:
    I did, wrote a blog about it. I did hear back from McLindo though and his was different then mine.
Hi NP, do you mind if I link your post on a followup post?

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BiggLala 46F  
25505 posts
2/10/2019 8:29 pm

    Quoting redrockrascal:
    Good to know. I think the bitcion thing suggests this is a newer round of blackmail. The question is is the info they are using from the past breeches or a new one.
Hmmm, well...that's tough to tell. I don't think the situation with guy I knew was from the early 2015 breach. I think it was someone he chatted with, and I *think* cammed with, i.e. the 'recording the cam session' scam.

What makes you think recent scams are due to a breach?

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redrockrascal 60M
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2/10/2019 8:11 pm

    Quoting BiggLala:
    Not me personally, but a local guy I met had it happen. The blackmailers claimed they would out him to his FB contacts if he did pay. IIRC he contacted the site and local authorities. He told me about it around mid-2015 (I think; May/June-ish maybe), so I'm guessing it happened just prior to that. I don't know the outcome.
Good to know. I think the bitcion thing suggests this is a newer round of blackmail. The question is is the info they are using from the past breeches or a new one.

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BiggLala 46F  
25505 posts
2/10/2019 7:04 pm

Not me personally, but a local guy I met had it happen. The blackmailers claimed they would out him to his FB contacts if he did pay. IIRC he contacted the site and local authorities. He told me about it around mid-2015 (I think; May/June-ish maybe), so I'm guessing it happened just prior to that. I don't know the outcome.

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charlesmartel0 54M  
124 posts
2/10/2019 6:47 pm

I'm from royal blood, and everybody knows we're all a bunch of preverts. There's literally nothing anyone could have that would give them any power over me, anyway. I'd just troll them.


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 8:09 pm:
I'll take that as a no you haven't been contacted. Thank you

redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 6:32 pm

    Quoting sasha3676:
    Hmm.. not my presence here. But I did get an email . The sender said I had downloaded a teen site and they had a video of me masturbating to a video on the site. Evidently they hacked into my computer when I downloaded the site. I do like younger men but not that young and I didn't download anything that I recall.They want me to send $2,000 to a site which would make it into Bitcoin or something like that.They give me twenty-four hours or release said video to my email contacts which they claimed to have. When I did nothing they send me another email giving me another 48 hours. I did nothing and didn't hear from them again.So that's my experience I'm sharing.
Can you tell me about when that happrned and if you reported it to this site? Thank you

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japaneseass 51F  
47400 posts
2/10/2019 6:16 pm

i have never had anyone blackmailed yet.

but last spring, i heard on news, there was an incident, involves the male member on this site being extorted by a con...

story goes, a male member was exchanging message though this site with a female member who claims 18 year old in age. a few days later a man claimed her father send him message, saying she was actually underage.

then the father wanted the male member to send $500 on a prepaid credit card or the father will tell the general public about it.

well...the member went to authority, he did not pay...

so this is definitely going on...


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 6:33 pm:
Thank you JA, yeah it is happening and a bit more than I knew of.

sasha3676 61F  
91 posts
2/10/2019 6:11 pm

Hmm.. not my presence here. But I did get an email . The sender said I had downloaded a teen site and they had a video of me masturbating to a video on the site. Evidently they hacked into my computer when I downloaded the site. I do like younger men but not that young and I didn't download anything that I recall.They want me to send $2,000 to a site which would make it into Bitcoin or something like that.They give me twenty-four hours or release said video to my email contacts which they claimed to have. When I did nothing they send me another email giving me another 48 hours. I did nothing and didn't hear from them again.So that's my experience I'm sharing.


AFF46703MAN 51M
10 posts
2/10/2019 6:01 pm

Haven't had any problems on here


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 6:30 pm:
Thank you AFFman

redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:49 pm

    Quoting Russian_Agent:
    There was an article in the news recently about millions of email addresses being up for sale. So many millions can be potential targets. But there is safety in numbers because nobody has the time to blackmail millions specially if many people don't use their real name.

    Search the title below:

    773 Million Email Addresses, 21 Million Passwords For Sale on Hacker Forum
I found that article today before I posted. That along with the people I know of prompted this post. Thank you

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redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:47 pm

    Quoting snowey8:
    yep, some guy asking me to help him get his green card
Was that an offsite contact?

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redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:46 pm

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    I reckon this is a lot more widespread than we would believe. People who are, for whatever reason, vulnerable may have been blackmailed and may now be too ashamed (or scared) to talk to anyone about it.

    In my case, we chatted for a while, then made tentative arrangements to meet, it gave me an account number into which I was to deposit money for an hotel (which I didn't do, but initially only because we hadn't arranged a date), then it progressed to adding a zero as the price for its silence. Fortunately I had given nothing away, and would never have progressed much further than we already had without exchanging numbers for a voice call. The profile was an old one (may have been hacked or may have been playing the long game) and very plausible. With hindsight, there were some difficult to discern signs.

    Heavy sigh of relief for me, as I say though, I'm not so sure that many others have got off so lightly.........
I'm a bit surprised by the number of people who have been contacted so far. The bloggers are a very small percent of the overall membership. I'm trying to figure if it is from a past breech or something more recent.

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MelissaKrapf 41F  
20 posts
2/10/2019 5:44 pm

i personally dont care what anyone thinks about my life style choices. If they dont like my life then they dont have to be in. Sex is not shameful itself. People who lie, cheat, or steal should be ashamed and krama a bitch. Be proud you have the gusts to live your life the way you choose. the world will not end for you if your family/friends find you're on a sex dating site. if they have issues after finding out you're on here ... then that's their problem not yours and just tell them its none of their business and walk away .

"Men need to hunt. She obviously understands this. She’s offering herself as prey. Not easy prey. But willing.”
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redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:53 pm:
Thank you

redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:41 pm

When did that happen and did you report it to the site?

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redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:40 pm

When was that and did you report it to the site?

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Grunt201150 27M
55 posts
2/10/2019 5:36 pm

There has been a email going around to everyone saying they record (person who owns the email) masturbating to porn and was going to release the video if they didn’t pay. It’s a scam. And besides my shows ain’t free them bastards better pay me!


redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:34 pm

    Quoting wecoyote1969:
    Had that happen to me as well.
    Fuck Locally Social Sex finder acted decisively when I reported it. So bravo to them.
    They did not get anything out of me and they won't.
    I basically told them that anyone they were planning to contact already knows about me and it is not like I am rich or running for office, so to take their best shot. Also informed them that I had screenshots of our entire contact and just by making that threat they were committing a felony which I was reporting to the authorities. Which I also did.

    I will not negotiate with terrorists.
Good to know and great response to them IMO. When was that?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:32 pm

    Quoting twosteps2:
    So far So good up here rascal,fingers crossed,'cause that's what screwed us a few years back.Cam came on with message saying something about police contacted,and then 'puter froze.Had to get it all cleaned up,2 months later same thing............found out computers don't fly worth a damn.Thanks for the post.Take Care.
Hi, just to be clear, you were contacted off site via your cam? Did they ask for money? Thank you

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redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:30 pm

Have you changed your password here recently?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 5:28 pm

Via this site, an offsite email? Was it reported to the site?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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ranchomongo 65M  
5341 posts
2/10/2019 5:11 pm

I get a lot a "young" women.. viewing me and writing me.. yes I m a lone, , lonely, horny, but .. I m not dead nor stupid... ok.. cancel that I m stupid.. I did , they said , my credit card wouldn t be charged. it was just for age verification..
$89 later plus a charage for international stuff..? and then they charged me $59 and international charges.. lol
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so i called my bank.. told them i was lonely and was in a bad way.. they said they would look into it.. i hope i m not charged..


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redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:52 pm:
Did they contact you offsite without you having given them your email?

Naughtypursuit 51F  
1771 posts
2/10/2019 5:02 pm

I did, wrote a blog about it. I did hear back from McLindo though and his was different then mine.


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:50 pm:
I'll check out your post, Thank you NP

Russian_Agent 92T  
56 posts
2/10/2019 5:01 pm

There was an article in the news recently about millions of email addresses being up for sale. So many millions can be potential targets. But there is safety in numbers because nobody has the time to blackmail millions specially if many people don't use their real name.

Search the title below:

773 Million Email Addresses, 21 Million Passwords For Sale on Hacker Forum


TB5758 60M/62F  
445 posts
2/10/2019 5:00 pm

No never heard of it happening.


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:48 pm:
OK thank you

snowey8 63F  
36 posts
2/10/2019 4:51 pm

yep, some guy asking me to help him get his green card


lindoboy100 56M
20155 posts
2/10/2019 4:41 pm

I reckon this is a lot more widespread than we would believe. People who are, for whatever reason, vulnerable may have been blackmailed and may now be too ashamed (or scared) to talk to anyone about it.

In my case, we chatted for a while, then made tentative arrangements to meet, it gave me an account number into which I was to deposit money for an hotel (which I didn't do, but initially only because we hadn't arranged a date), then it progressed to adding a zero as the price for its silence. Fortunately I had given nothing away, and would never have progressed much further than we already had without exchanging numbers for a voice call. The profile was an old one (may have been hacked or may have been playing the long game) and very plausible. With hindsight, there were some difficult to discern signs.

Heavy sigh of relief for me, as I say though, I'm not so sure that many others have got off so lightly.........

Wake up and hold yer noses.........


kimberliejo1 42F  
636 posts
2/10/2019 4:40 pm

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No, I haven't... but keep us posted babe...
does anyone know for sure whether they can get information from here KJ

Putting your heart on your sleeve is a step towards making a lifelong friend!


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:43 pm:
Will do KJ, yes the site has been compromised in the past.

xcellentkisser2 61M
102 posts
2/10/2019 4:27 pm

Yep .. got that email asking for $825 ...


ghostgunxxxx4 61M  
216 posts
2/10/2019 4:19 pm

yup have and just loled em i dont care


Lkn4funwith2 53M
668 posts
2/10/2019 4:17 pm

What I have noticed is that men and women who contact me on IM want me to text them to a number they provide, which would be a mistake to do so. It is better to get a cheap pre-paid phone to get more information without giving up your personal info.


lonlyforlove2 76M  
1354 posts
2/10/2019 4:16 pm

Do keep us posted, I am sure all are interested...


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:38 pm:
will do

BiGuy4U53 56M
103 posts
2/10/2019 4:15 pm

had this happen to me once, they sent an e mail saying they were gonna tell my family i had 63,000 porn files on my computer. unless i sent them $300. i wrote back go ahead dickhead they already know. so take your 300 shove it up your ars. never heard a word again...


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:37 pm:
Great response, when was that?

lonlyforlove2 76M  
1354 posts
2/10/2019 4:15 pm

Red , no issues here in all the years, I do get a quack email or text some times but not related to these sites, and I am on Afair.link… I think all the same


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:37 pm:
Good to know LfL

s2ndegree 60M  
8600 posts
2/10/2019 4:04 pm

It isn't something that would concern me. I knew it was only a matter of time before the scammers would get hip and consider those who have something to hide.Maybe not for extortion reasons but just for the challenge.

It would probably be listed it on truth finders website. A ticked off employee perhaps?

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redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:36 pm:
The motive is money in the cases I'm aware of so far.

blackdude4white 59M  
66 posts
2/10/2019 4:03 pm

No, I haven't had this yet. I have had a lot of women wanting me to contact them on different sites, but not this yet.
Thank you for the warning.


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:34 pm:
You're welcome

wecoyote1969 49M  
4 posts
2/10/2019 3:57 pm

Had that happen to me as well.
Fuck Locally Social Sex finder acted decisively when I reported it. So bravo to them.
They did not get anything out of me and they won't.
I basically told them that anyone they were planning to contact already knows about me and it is not like I am rich or running for office, so to take their best shot. Also informed them that I had screenshots of our entire contact and just by making that threat they were committing a felony which I was reporting to the authorities. Which I also did.

I will not negotiate with terrorists.


twosteps2 66M/45F  
266 posts
2/10/2019 3:56 pm

So far So good up here rascal,fingers crossed,'cause that's what screwed us a few years back.Cam came on with message saying something about police contacted,and then 'puter froze.Had to get it all cleaned up,2 months later same thing............found out computers don't fly worth a damn.Thanks for the post.Take Care.


bitchkitty2017 66F  
2674 posts
2/10/2019 3:53 pm

no I haven't but there def is a couple scammers here lately ..I never experienced that but now I have..


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:30 pm:
Thanks BK

mc_justmc 58M  
4444 posts
2/10/2019 3:50 pm

Nope, not me.


easy_going2014 52M
9598 posts
2/10/2019 3:47 pm

No, I have not.

thanks for sharing this message.

I have had other scam attempts made by women needing money to help close a business deal... more than once...

so, it is a buyer beware market...

have a great week!


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:29 pm:
Thanks easy

LustingInDeLoop 56F  
1399 posts
2/10/2019 3:44 pm

Not to me but a friend got the same.

My erotic stories are mainly fiction with certain activities inspired by real life. 😁


porterpiper1 52F
3732 posts
2/10/2019 3:44 pm

NO i haven't but thanks for the warning


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:26 pm:
There seems to be more than just those I mentioned too.

SlipperyPete50 50M

2/10/2019 3:41 pm

No but that's crazy.


redrockrascal replies on 2/10/2019 5:26 pm:
Yup it is

redrockrascal 60M
19711 posts
2/10/2019 3:24 pm

post it note

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